A big thank you to Christine Barrington at KSQD FM in Santa Cruz, California, for an extremely enjoyable 60 minute interview that broadcast live on Sunday, 12 February 2023. I have found it extremely difficult to skim the content for a 175 page book into brief interviews. There is so much to glean from the Japanese experience of reinventing forgotten rural communities with creative action. However, Be Bold America host Christine Barrington really helped me to get to that next level of discussion. Hope you find it worth a listen. Here is the link to the podcast recording.